What peaked my interest in class this week was the subject of killing, and if there were circumstances where God would allow us to kill.
First of all, I’d like to look back to Old Testament times, when God’s chosen people were following his commands to enter the promised land.
They start out by taking the city of Jericho, a story which most of us know. They march around the city for a week, and eventually the walls fall down. But it often makes me wonder why most of the time when we hear this story, we miss the next part…
“The rams’ horns sounded and when the army heard the signal, they gave a loud battle cry. The wall collapsed and the warriors charged straight ahead into the city and captured it. They annihilated with the sword everything that breathed in the city, including men and women, young and old, as well as cattle, sheep, and donkeys.” Joshua 6:20-21
This is evidence that God was telling his people to kill other people. Men, Women and children.
Now, I brought this subject up in class, and someone suggested that though this WAS true in Old Testament times, the rules changed when Christ died. So the question is, since Christ died for us, is there still anything we can do to deserve physical death?
Look with me in the New Testament book of 1 John.
“If anyone sees his fellow Christian committing a sin not resulting in death, he should ask, and God will grant life to the person who commits a sin not resulting in death. There is a sin resulting in death. I do not say that he should ask about that. All unrighteousness is sin, but there is sin not resulting in death.” 1 John 5:16-17
What this verse is saying, is that there IS a sin that results in death, yet not ALL sins result in death. So, I guess what we have to figure out is, what sin results in death? Keep in mind that this covers the subjects of war, the death penalty and self defense.
This is where the conversation part of the blog comes in. I’d like to hear your views on the subject.
Monday, September 7, 2009
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Commented on Seth's blog.
ReplyDeleteI love how we just blogged about the SAME thing. We must talk a lot or something...
ReplyDeleteSo we know there is a sin resulting in death. We know that GOD used the people of Israel to bring about death to entire nations. What I'm struggling with is this: would GOD use us today to do the same thing? I don't know...I'm seeking out the answer. I may not get it...but I'm asking.
We'll have to talk about this some more sometime this week. ;)
I've never heard this interpretation of this passage from 1 John before. And it is an interesting idea. You seem to be saying that the death resulting for this sin is physical. However, I believe that this verse is not talking about physical death but SPIRITUAL death. In my opinion, I think this sin is rejection of Christ and the Gospel. While you can be saved and commit sins ( ex. lying, gossip, adultery) you cannot be a Christian and reject the Gospel obviously. It is a sin that without a doubt leads to spiritual death. I know that my explanation probably isn't exactly clear but that because God's many mysteries are beyond me and it's hard to put into words. My main point I guess is that I view the death mentioned as SPIRITUAL not physical.
ReplyDeleteI see what you're saying, Allie. Thanks for voicing your oppinion! If I may respond....
ReplyDeleteIn the first part of the verse, it says "If a fellow Christian committing a sin that does not result in death" So, I believe it's talking about Christians comitting these sins, and thats what leads me to the conclusion that it is speaking of physical death. I happen to be a strong supporter of eternal security....but thats another discussion, haha.
Kala, you ask a very good question. It's pretty ironic....cuz in Green by Ted Dekker, the book I'm currently reading, The Circle is begining to have doubts in their way of life:Peace with the Horde(I know Kala knows what I'm talking about, anyone else, feel free to ask)
ReplyDeleteI honestly don't know the answer to this question, although....I believe that God is unchanging, and that eventually, this world WILL be punished for turning away from him, and that punishment WILL be both physical, and spiritual death.